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ENTS Major: Pros and Cons

December 5, 2005 at 10:59 am
By Kim Smith

Is it time to create an ENTS major? ENTS concentrators and ENTS faculty have been discussing that question, largely independently of one another. I think it's time for a common conversation.

So far, I’ve heard three strong arguments in favor of a major:

Marketing: Let's face it, marketing matters. Offering an ENTS major may help attract talented students to Carleton. Of our peer institutions, Oberlin, Pomona, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Wellesley and Brown already offer a major in environmental studies or something similar.

Strengthening the concentration: Redesigning the curriculum to support a major might make it easier to fulfill the requirements of the concentration. In addition, the majors could provide leadership and bring their expertise to ENTS classes.

Faculty development and pedagogy: Designing and administering a major would probably require even more conversation about curricular goals and pedagogy among faculty. The ENTS program is pioneering two major curricular innovations: interdisciplinary education and project-based learning. Designing a major centered on those goals would give students an education uniquely suited to help them deal with the challenges of citizenship in the twenty-first century--or so we hope. This project would also help faculty figure out the challenges of these pedagogies.

On the other hand, there are two compelling reasons not to go this route:

The depth/breadth issue: Most programs pair a disciplinary major with an interdisciplinary concentration, with good reason. Disciplines are designed to give students an in-depth understanding of a particular methodology and theoretical approach. At the moment, we can’t offer that in environmental studies; we risk giving our students a superficial understanding of a variety of different disciplines, but no experience with the rigorous training in a particular methodology that disciplinary majors offer. This could put students at a disadvantage, particularly when applying to graduate school.
On the other hand, many disciplines (like my own, political science) began their lives as a hodgepodge of different methods and theories. They’ve evolved a degree of coherence and depth over time—usually after being institutionalized in the universities. Maybe we need to create an ENTS major as an essential step toward creating a more coherent environmental studies discipline.

Workload: This is a big issue. We could probably staff enough courses for a coherent ENTS major (provided we bolster our staffing in the humanities). But we would have to find a way to advise comps; this is the main sticking point, in my opinion. Most majors offer students the optin of doing supervised independent research projects. Both students and faculty usually find this a very valuable learning experience, but it’s the most labor-intensive approach to comps. And it poses special challenges when we expect such projects to be interdisciplinary (American Studies has a long experience with these challenges). In my view, we would have to design a different comps experience, perhaps following Bio’s problem-based model.

At this point, I'm leaning toward the pro side, but I think we need to hear more perspectives and arguments.

Comments

  • January 5 2006 at 1:48 am
    Adam Smith
    Simply put, the lack of an environmental studies major almost prevented me from coming to Carleton in the first place. I'm inclined to believe that I made the right choice despite this concern, but I think it is time for Carleton to move toward an ENTS major nonetheless. Not because competing colleges have such programs (although certainly the school's appeal would be boosted), but because such a program is aligned with Carleton's educational philosophy and focus on liberal arts. An interdisciplinary education, despite the challenges it presents in depth of understanding and methodological coherence, lends itself to Carleton's institutional goals. Additionally, the ability to understand and connect different academic disciplines is becoming a necessity for environmental professionals in many fields. Again, this shift would obviously present some significant challenges to faculty, students, and administration, but I would like to believe that those who come to Carleton understand that they are here to be challenged and that they are willing to work optimistically towards natural and classroom environments that make us all happy we that we made the decision to come to Carleton.
  • January 9 2006 at 5:33 pm
    Markael Luterra

    As a current ENTS concentrator, I would be strongly in favor of an ENTS major as an option. Ideally there would then be three options available to those interested in ENTS: the current concentration approach requiring major-level specialization in a particular discipline, a double major in ENTS and another discipline, and (the best option in my opinion) and ENTS major with a concentration in a particular discipline.

    Due to its interdisciplinary nature, an ENTS major would overlap nicely with distribution requirements, thereby still leaving plenty of open slots for an in-depth focus in a particular field. Using my own department as an example, ENTS majors concentrating in biology could be required to take the intro sequence, the required three classes at the cell, organismal, and ecological level, and 2-3 cross-listed BIOL/ENTS classes. Comps could then have two parts, an interdisciplinary project required of all majors and supervised by dedicated ENTS faculty, and a concentration-specific project (perhaps simply a scaled-down version of that department's comps requirement with an environmental focus) supervised by department-specific faculty.

    The overlap of ENTS core classes and distribution requirements (as already occurs now with the concentration) could lead to concern among those who feel that this discourages diversification, as students take American Environmental History, American Environmental Thought, and Environmental Ethics instead of learning the central concepts of a discipline in such classes as English Literature, Comparative Political Regimes, or Epistemology. This situation could be improved by limiting the number of distribution requirements that can be covered by ENTS cross-listed classes.

    I am strongly in favor of an ENTS major, and I would have been one had the option been available. As long as a solid grounding in one discipline is required, I see no reason why a major should not be available, and I see a demand emerging in environmental organizations, policy positions, and even corporate management positions for people who all well-versed in all aspects of environmental issues.

  • January 20 2006 at 3:55 pm
    David Holman
    I think that a serious dialogue needs to occur about this, not a blog, although a blog is better than nothing. I would like to see a meeting, perhaps the next ENTS faculty meeting, just invite all ENTS concentrators and all students who were or are close to concentrating to just have us go around and describe to the faculty what we want the ENTS program to be like now, next year and down the road. Maybe even call each concentrator's extension personally asking them to come so that faculty can listen to their input. That way the faculty, when going to the administration, would be able to know and explain where the student passion lies. My 2 cents: *The most important reason has not been mentioned yet. The human race is facing a crisis; our continuing ability to sustain ourselves and the Earth's biosphere. The convergence of climate change, biodiversity loss, pollution, resource depletion etc threatens our species as we know it. How do we organize our society, business, transportation, energy, policy, food systems? These questions must be not just answered but worked on feverishly or virutally all fields of science seems to tell us to expect drastic and negative changes in the next 100+ years. Human endeavor has destabilized this planet that has evolved in dynamic balance for millions of years and we now question whether the planet's ability to cope with our drastic changes may even be effectual anymore. All educational institutions serve to better society, teach people how to live in and be useful to society, and thus have a responsibility to address society's most strident needs. The ENTS concentration is the most direct way we have at Carleton of addressing these problems in a way integrated enough to seriously approach them. Kyoto is not just a political problem, deforestation not just a biological problem, etc. This college needs to look at the BIG picture and realize that this is, as Tsegaye would say, a crisis discipline and deserves to be prioritized to the fullest extent possible. Furthermore, I think we can mostly agree that it will becoming an increasingly crisis discipline with every day that goes by and every extra ton of CO2 emitted. I know that it sounds dramatic but the more I travel, the more I learn at this institution, the more I am convinced that our great grandchildren will look back on the Earth of 2006 and see it as a virtual eden in which people ignorently waited for negative actions build up and begin causing massive and irreversable reactions. *Students are passionate about ENTS and we should be allowed to follow our passion instead of relegating it to second priority below our major. I would've majored in ENTS, I know at least 4 other people that also would've. I am confident that there are more. ENTS is the largest concentration at Carleton, and several smaller concentrations also offer majors. I for instance am one of 2 Latin American studies majors at Carleton. ENTS has far more structure in a variety of ways than my actual major. I also would say that ENTS has put more demands on my time than my major and requires almost as many classes. The ENTS distros are definitly harder to fufill than those of my major because they are so diverse. ENTS for me, already is (work wise) a double major yet I receive no such recognition from the registrar. Although I think that ENTS should evolve to be even more rigorous academicaly if it becomes a major, there already exist majors into which far less effort is invested yet the students who wish to follow them are allowed to do so and receive official credit. *ENTS has been around a long time and it doesn't seem to have the institutional momentum to really thurst itself forward. I believe that this is because most dialogues about its future have not involved the people it was created to serve; students. ENTS is the biggest concentration and I believe that it would quickly become a popular major (perhaps to the dismay of tradition disciplines who would "lose" students) because it engages students on a hands on level. I haven't met a single ENTS student who thinks offering a major is a bad idea, yet enthusiasm among faculty is mixed. ENTS is not a trend discipline, the urgency and need for these studies will not go away in the forseeable future, in fact the need for them will only increase. The question is will we be leaders in addressing that need (and student need) or will debate remain confined to upper levels. I realize that most disciplines don't sit all their students down and ask what they think the Carleton Biology or Math department should really be doing, but perhaps that is because there is not such a discord between what students what want and what exists. *ENTS is a fabulous program and it should become a department. I am not fully aware of what kind of process this would entail, how complicated it would be, or how long it would take, only that current ENTS faculty are stretched to the max. They don't have time for side ventures, for the projects that make ENTS so rewarding, for advising students, or really to be full time ENTS faculty at all. Most Carleton faculty are extremely pressured, however ENTS faculty can't even devote their full efforts to ENTS in general, and must be sorta dual-faculty it seems. If ENTS were able to run itself as a department it seems that there would be much more flexibility and ability to really offer a range of specialize courses that professors and students want rather than forcing people to teach two different. *Grad School. First of all, grad school is not a goal, its a tool; a means to an end. Let us not be so selfish as to aspire to grad school/academia when we should be aspiring to help positively change our community and restore ecological balance. However, if one can best promote these changes by going to grad school, then majoring ENTS should at least not hurt that person's chances (I may be one of them). Grad schools, from what little I know of them, are not just looking for a solid discipline but for leadership. ENTS is very very good at promoting individual students to take up the reigns and really do something valuable. It's possible that many of the ENTS capstone projects may have actually interested grad schools more than the COMPS. I believe that my involvement with ENTS will be more impressive than anything I've done for my major and I've noticed a lot of my ENTS projects figure prominently on my resume or any potential grad school application. I believe leadership in independent projects, addressing critical public issues, and showing innvoation/initiative are valuable and that ENTS can be sending out extremely dynamic grad school candidates who are not only as well academically grounded as other disciplines, but show appealing attributes that students in a conventional major might not. Carleton has always been recognized as an extremely academically rigorous institution, and I've always found ENTS classes to live up to that reputation so I'm confident that grad would quickly be impressed with the ENTS majors we send their way. *Funding is inevitably an issue. I was on College Council and saw firsthand how some budget decisions are made and it's not easy. However, the college, at some level, needs to put its money where its mouth is. We cannot continue to brag about Carleton's various sustainable features and projects and yet stymy the very discipline from which such things should be stemming. Carleton seems to be expanding its green PR and capital resources more than its green human capital which is the foundation of any academic institution. The college is in the beginnings of a massive (and thus far successful) capital campaign which hopes to fund many endowed chairs among other things, NOW is the time to make as strong of a case we can that several of those need to go to a new ENTS department and that faculty are needed in the meantime. So in conclusion: I think we need to bring students into this dialogue with more than just a blog that most won't read (But again, this is a good start) and really listen to their opinions before planning any further development of the ENTS program. ENTS can and should be a major because students and society need it, because it's already rigorous and structured, and because it would allow students to follow their passion. ENTS (not .5 Bio .5 ENTS) should hiring more faculty and faculty who can lead hands on, and experimental learning that couples with other disciplines. ENTS faculty should be able to follow their teaching passion and not be put under multiple demands, just like the students should be allowed to major in ENTS and not be sidetracked.
  • January 20 2006 at 7:38 pm
    Amy Wilson
    I am in strong favor of expanding the ENTS concentration and allowing students to major in ENTS. Were this option available to me, I would certainly be an ENTS major. Like Adam, I was tempted to study elsewhere because I feel so passionately about ENTS related issues and would love to study them more deeply. Even though I chose Carleton despite not having of an ENTS major, I imagine that there are many would-be Carleton students who have attended another school with an environmental studies or science major because of this singular difference. I think that Carleton would attract more socially and environmentally conscious individuals were it to offer a well-supported ENTS major. I get the sense that there is a strong interest in expanding the concentration to a major. Not only have I heard my peers complain that there is not an ENTS major, but there are also many campus groups that try to promote sustainability and environmental consciousness. Furthermore, Carleton College brags about its wind turbine and involvement in other green events. While I am proud of these achievements and involvements, I think Carleton’s self-described commitment to environmental awareness can be viewed a slightly hypocritical and partially hollow if it does not do as so many other small liberal arts schools have done and developed a serious department and major for studies like ENTS. I’ve found the ENTS classes I have taken both enjoyable and informative and thus I intend to become an ENTS concentrator. However, I am uncertain of how well prepared I will be in finding the job I want in an environmental field. I am especially frustrated because I took Environmental Science in high school and feel that my options for continuing this learning are not as full here as I would hope for. With the option of an ENTS major, these feelings of uncertainty would be greatly reduced for me and my peers as well. Beyond my personal interest in these topics of study, I think there is a great need for students to become well versed in the issues of environmental and technology studies. I see environment related news reports describing concerns relevant to everyone with increasing frequency. These issues are inextricably tied to issues of health, culture, and science; all subjects that are highly valued and important in our society. Why then, do many academic institutions neglect to inform students on these subjects in the interdisciplinary manner that an ENTS major would? These concerns have never been more pressing and it is now our responsibility to think about sustainability in our policies, scientific studies, and cultural understandings. One convenient place to begin thinking in this way would be in a Carleton classroom with ENTS majors. I hope that this can someday happen.
  • January 20 2006 at 10:30 pm
    Dana Kraus
    I am in strong favor of creating an ENTS major. The issues ENTS courses address are some of the most important issues we will face in our adult lives. The major needs to be interdisciplinary and have required service-learning, civic engagement projects. The current ENTS is a natural (obvious) choice of a group to lead Carleton towards interdisciplinary education. If we can't provide the leadership to create a major that would allow students to study the connections between science, politics, economics, our environment and culture, will any other department?
  • January 20 2006 at 11:01 pm
    Jason Lord

    I think for Carleton to continue to be competitive with its peers, environmental education must be a prominent focus on its campus. Environmental education is by its nature multidisciplinary. Because ENTS is a developing field, there are many opportunities for undergraduate research to really advance the knowledge in the field -- for example Carleton’s eco-house class. In just an introductory class, students were able to do original research, just imagine what ENTS major's comps projects would do! Environmental projects build community and connection with the campus, and I think that ENTS students would really bond with Carleton as an institution. Several of our “peer” institutions have very developed and prominent environmental studies departments – perhaps Carleton needs to follow before it can lead?

    http://www.stolaf.edu/green/

    http://www.oberlin.edu/envs/

    http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/es/

    http://www.middlebury.edu/academics/catalogs/catalog/academic_programs/courses/interdis/envs.htm

    http://www.williams.edu/CES/

  • January 21 2006 at 10:36 am
    Ryan Imhoff

    I might transfer from Carleton to pursue a more engineering approach to environmental design. But if I stay, I found sufficient overlap in a major in Geology and concentrations in Political Economy and ENTS to create the ENTS major I wanted to have: science & policy. Near the end of freshman year, I went through talking to my advisor and Gary about the necessary steps to create a major. Ultimately, if I stay, I'm not going to push for a major for me.

    I hope Carleton creates a major for ENTS. If nothing else, it will create more institutional approach to the environmental concerns and increase multi-disciplinary thinking skills.

  • January 22 2006 at 3:08 pm
    Greg Haman

    Though I myself am not an ENTS concentrator, I enter the discussion as one concerned about humanity's relationship with the environment. I feel that there is a great need for professionals in this area, and that this need ought continue to grow, and that Carleton ought be a leader here (or at least a follower of other institutions with such majors). That said, I believe that some of the negatives to creation of an ENTS major voiced above by Kim Smith are matters of concern. Now, recently I read a lengthy report by a committee studying the feasibility of creating a new building for the Arts at Carleton. I was wondering if anyone was farmilliar with the process by which serious issues such as these come to the attention of such comittees. It seems to me like there are enough people concerned about this issue that such a probing look is merited. Perhaps something along these lines, where a grouping of faculty and students spend time reflecting and listing pros/cons is the next step.

  • January 23 2006 at 10:18 am
    Kim Smith

    One of the barriers to creating an ENTS major is comps. The most popular model for comps is a supervised independent research project. Supervising these projects is very labor-intensive for the faculty (although also very rewarding). But we generally get no teaching credit for it. Since all the ENTS faculty have comps students in their home departments, how would we find time to handle an additional group of ENTS comps? Maybe some of you could brainstorm a model for comps that would be less labor-intensive for the faculty but still valuable for the students? I was thinking that something less than a supervised indepdent research project but more than an exam might work: Pose a broad problem at the beginning of the term--like biodiversity loss in California--and have students come up with an "appropriate response" (broadly defined) to that problem. The faculty's role would be limited to giving a few lectures or discussion sessions on the topic over the course of the term, and evaluating the responses (according to whatever criteria we agree on). I don't know whether the other ENTS faculty would be comfortable with that, but maybe you all have some other ideas.

  • February 12 2006 at 6:59 pm
    Nina Mukherji

    One approach to problems of comps and depth in a discipline would be to do what some special majors do, which is to have students in the major "belong" to a relevant department. A student could take a substantial amount of coursework in that department and do comps in it, but still take a lot of interdisciplenary courses. For instance, with the Asian studies special major, you choose a region of study and a department. You take at least 18 credits in your department, including a methods class, and do comps with an advisor from that department. There are also requirements for the major to keep it interdisciplinary.

    So I would think that a student majoring in ENTS could have a focus in, say, biology, and have to take 3 or 4 crosslisted ENTS/bio classes and perhaps the biology methods class (seminar). He or she could then be required to take at least one ENTS course from each of the three remaining fields of study (humanities, arts & literature, social sciences).

    For comps, a student could work on an ENTS project within the comps requirements of his or her honorary department with an ENTS advisor from that department. If the project were very interdisciplinary, the student could consult with other professors. But in general, I think that most Carleton professors should be equipped to advise a student working on an interdisciplinary project. How can Carleton expect students to think across disciplines if faculty don't?

    Maybe for comps, students could choose between working within a department and doing the kind of problem-based project Kim Smith suggested.

  • February 13 2006 at 3:44 pm
    Kim Smith

    Nina's proposal is quite interesting, but I'm wondering how it's an improvement over just doing an ENTS concentration. It sounds pretty much the same. But you also pose a good and (for us faculty) troubling question: how can we expect our students to do what we don't seem to have the time or inclination to do--that is, to be truly interdisciplinary in our teaching and research?

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