May 9th, 2005
- Location: Syles
- Time: 7:00 pm
- Present: President CJ Griffiths, Vice President Watkins, Treasurer Laura Monn, Andy Navratil, Byron White*, Tim Blaha*, Scott Konzem, John Smith-Ricco, Dave Holman, Cherise Jones, David Wiczer, Jeff Walls, Brandon Sun, Rivka Burnstein-Stern, Dan Rubenstein, George Katchergis, Tom Duda, Ali Khaki, Cherise Jones, Michael Duyzend, Tim Singer (* denotes tardy)
- Absent: Ben Egerman
- Guests: Rotblatt Reps
- Secretary: Even Pay
A number of senate members were tardy due to room draw
President Griffiths called the meeting to order at 706 PM after some computer frustrations.
Griffiths: Dean of students selection process has evaluated all the candidates. Also, take a look at the one-card ideas in campus activities
Monn: Did appeals process, went smoothly, thanks to groups.
Watkins: Mmm, he had a good dinner
WARM (Winter Awareness Refuge Minnesota)
Corrected some typos
Requested $500 for equipment
Approved with one opposed
Requested $48 for their pamphlet “quest-ions”
Carleton Kendo Club
$1050 for 3 bogus, (the armor)
$17 for a new shovel used in rites, risk of impalement with old shovel
Requested $2470 ($1000 was T shirt money, other was set up for annual softball game)
Two bids: $1470, $2470 bids made, $1470 bid was passed 4-3 on the grounds that T-shirts, as personal property, do not qualify for CSA funding.
Rotblatt Reps: In years past, CSA has overturned the bylaws. T-shirts are the jerseys for the game, it is part of the event. A large part of the event is the shared experience and walking around in the T-shirt afterwards. Businesses have donated to the event, and are expecting ads on the T-shirt as in the past. Last year, 600 T shirts were adequate.
Gates Sanford added that the game actually got played last year, they plan to continue that tradition. This is a matter of tradition. Lots of students, alums, sports illustrated, etc.
Holman – strongly recommends funding the T-shirt request. Personal property is funded on a case-by-case basis. No one intends to profit from the T-shirt, it is a matter of tradition. The group does fundraising on their own.
Smith-Ricco asks how they will monitor people coming for T-shirts and then leave. Rep clarifies that they have to take the field to get a T-shirt, the number is adequate.
Burnstein-Stern thinks it would be ridiculous not to fund the T-shirts, it is a great tradition.
Monn likes the tradition, but it is directly in contradiction with the bylaws.
Navratil echos Monn, does not see any good reason for us to break bylaws. There are other sources of money for the event. They have raised 1500 from outside sources. This is directed towards alcohol. Senate can’t fund alcohol or T-shirts. Rotblatt should make a choice, since they have money already. In the past, other groups have requested T-shirts. Afrisa came to request T-shirts for dance event, they are rejected.
Smith-Ricco asked about donating $10 for a reserve T-shirt. Has that happened? Rotblatt reps note that students have a preconception that Tshirts will be free, therefore they don’t donate.
Khaki acknowledges the importance of the event, but needs to have consistency with the bylaws.
Watkins observes that there is no question that this violates the bylaws. Key differentiation is that this separates the teams.
Wiczer suggests that this does not discriminate against other groups since Rotblatt is not a group, it is an all-campus event.
Rubenstein adds that it is rare that we know what student opinion is, but in this case, we do. That is why budget guidelines are “guidelines.”
Gates Sanford observes that last year’s Rotblatt committee had 6,000, a lot more came from CSA. Only half to two-thirds as much money this year, which will cut down on alcohol.
Singer supports consistency, but we have consistently funded this for years.
Holman echos Singer’s sentiments as possible. Suggests that in the future, the group is careful to shift funding burdens as much as possible towards CSA funding things that don’t violate the bylaws.
Sun asks Rotblatt organizers what they’ll do if they don’t get the 1000.
Sanford notes that many businesses will be upset if they can’t use the advertising. They need to be ordered now. Tickets might have to be sold, T-shirts would definitely have to be sold.
Khaki suggests that saying no to the T-shirts is not actually saying no to Rotblatt. Observes that he just played softball, and that they didn’t get confused without team shirts.
16-3 speakers’ list capped
Burnstein-Stern says Rotblatt is coming up very soon, we need to fund them now in order to allow them to place a t-shirt order. If we plan to say no in the long term, it should be done before 2 weeks away.
Navratil suggests that there is no case for breaking the bylaw against personal property. Having done something in the past does not justify it in the future.
Smith-Ricco asks about the advertisement on the T-shirt, made a commitment to businesses to add their logo to the T-shirts. Jones mentions the list of businesses who contributed to add their logos to T-shirts. Smith-Ricco adds that cutting the T-shirts could potentially sever business ties with a large number of local businesses. Bressler adds that T-shirts are a major part of the Rotblatt tradition. Inclusive of all of student body. Sanford adds that in a 600 person game, you need T-shirts to differentiate teams. This is the second-biggest spring event.
At the end of the speakers list, the body moves automatically into a vote.
A motion for roll call vote on the amendment to the BC reccomendation is made and seconded. It requires a 2/3 vote to amend recommendations. There are 18 voting members present.
Voting No: Navratil, Monn, Duyzend, Khaki, and Duda
Amended bid passes 13-5
Tom and Peter Fritz have been nominated to a special oversight committee
Duda moves to approve their nomination
Singer moves to open discussion, Asks the members if they are on budget committee, yes, both are on budget committee, Singer expresses ambivalence at having no students at large.
The nominees make a brief statement.
The nominees are approved with some reservations and out of order side comments.
Capital Reserves Committee
Motion and second to approve the official bylaw change as posted last week.
Budget Committee – Spring Allocations
Monn and Watkins report: 85 groups requested money. Total request $313,749
Total allocated, 217,799 (including appeals) They had to cut over 100,000 in order to meet the budget for next year. They reserved $10,000 for appeals, have spent most of it, but there is a small amount left (not consciously reserved).
13 groups appealed. All the groups were very understanding. The process went really well, groups who clarified did get additional allocations.
The fixed allocations:
Club sports got $64,300
3rd center (meeting profs) $4500
Alt bev. $2700
Metro Arts $4000
Love Bus $9000
Spec Als $21000
A number of questions and clarifications regarding the nature of funds and the way funding was determined are asked and clarified.
Most groups were funded for one trip to the cities per term. The BC decided to set a $200 cap on food allocations within the Spring Als process. Almost every org asks for food somehow. Many multicultural groups cannot get food in Northfield and it’s expensive. Other groups want hot dogs, ice cream socials, and so on.
The purpose of first round was to be “fair to everyone,” appeals were held for groups to make arguments for special exceptions and additional funding
Club Caribe – Came back to appeal for DJ money, but it was pointed out that honoraria was a better allocation for this, so they withdrew the appeal.
CIA appealed for $220 for cities trip and funding for students to go to Ramadan buffet
Druids appealed $44 for two folk-sings, traditional gift is port, but they made a strong case for why it was important.
Men of Color $305 (withdrew larger request), including 2 trips to cities for community service project and 75/term for barbershop.
SPB got the same allocation as they got this year. St. Olaf will likely be in spring concert next year.
ASIA appealed for $3234. Did not fund Lunar New Year in spring allocations request. There was confusion with other group activities, since other groups were doing celebrations. ASIA hosts the activity independently. Additional allocations were made to begin theater mu negotiations. Also $339 for lantern festival. Also DVD and Book collections regarding APA issues.
Canada Club appealed for 180 for Canadian flag, trophy for floor hockey. Did not allocate for ice fishing gear.
JSC came back for allocation for Shabbat dinners, $3000.
SUMO came back for student wages for projectionists. Wage increase by $42, senate approved.
KRLX appealed for $350 for supplies and printing.
LASO $450: $250 for library, $30 supplies (latino fall) and $100 (international fest) $120 for additional trip to the cities. Allocated $330 (less the additional trip)
Cave $1875 for food and bev as well as programming. BC notes that the food sales needs to be self-sustaining
Mustard Seed ($ for soundproofing) and $ for music collection $272 allocated
BSA $1275 for end of term events (not funded – not planned yet) and ebony recording fee and supply run. allocated $565
Holman asks why sola scriptura was funded at a very low percentage. Suggests adding a “previous year allocation” column to get a trend.
Monn notes that sola scriptura was a very vague request, including no specific costs or events.
Holman questions the logic of funding a group $10.
Monn notes that when groups submit an unclear budget, they are bound to get cut. Even groups that submit excellent budgets sustain heavy cuts.
Watkins suggests having senators mentor groups to develop more effective requests.
Watkins proves that the budget balances.
Motion and second to approve the budget
Passes with one abstention
Holman proposes gambling as a revenue source for campus.
Hart-Ruthenbeck mentions that the state licensing process is very stringent, and there are moral concerns.
White raises moral objections.
Holman wants to give obsolete computers to students and/or organizations/charities. Suggests ITS committee should look into it and possibly recommend a resolution. There were a number of articles in the Carletonian.
Hart-Ruthenbeck mentions that NEO has been working on it
Kachergis notes that NEO and TRIO work together to distribute computers to students. World Computer exchange is another program. Some issues are accountability (the college wants to be sure that they eventually get recycled since they contain heavy metals.)
Konzem has discussed it with ITS, the problem is responsibility of the college. Serial numbers can be traced, the college can be fined. The college used to sell/ give away to students. Then when students had problems, ITS was asked for support or to take responsibility for computers. If there were a way to do it without liability, it would be a good option.
Watkins says that using it on campus should be pursued. Getting students computers for a reasonable price would be a great program. Mentions that some colleges issue students laptops as freshmen. Motion and second to send it to ITS committee.
Motion to adjourn – 8:50