April 30th, 2007
- Location: Sayles 251
- Present: Jason Malashevic, Romeo C, Evan Rowe, Tim Foran, Aleks Stoller, Yirong Z, Peter Ladner, Liv Killeen, Alex Popper, Marquita Davis, Love Anani, Ali Khaki, Becca Bartram, Peter Fritz, Tim Singer
- Absent: Tricia England, Yusi He, Elizabeth Grey, Kelly Carlin, Brandon Walker, Marshall McDonald, Syed Sadaf Sultan,
- Guests: Joe Baggot, Chris Dlugosz, Steve Wisener, John Ramsay
- Secretary: Peter Fritz
No one from Nightshade present
Questions regarding composition of team, number of individuals, breakdown of application
Only vans, no cars available.
Khaki expressed skepticism for adding an additional tournament after an already busy chess season. Wanted to spend money for broader benefit
Rowe concurred with Khaki, highlighting seniors as participants
Davis expressed support for BC recommendation, citing different standard for competitions.
Anani expressed certain amount of support for Khaki’s sentiments
Davis pointed out that the BC recommendation was for transportation and entry fees.
Malashevic moved to close discussion.
Khaki requested a straw poll—body seemed opposed
Reccomendation failed, zero dollars allocated.
Khaki opened discussion
Khaki asked about the retroactive nature of funding.
Bartram described the situation not as retroactive, but rather as a shuffle
Anani asked if this was alt
Rowe moved to open discussion
R asked organization representative if this amount was enough.
Organization replied that three more issues for the term would be ok, but ideally would have
Motion to amend bid to $480 made by Rowe—this would fund the CLAP through 9th week
Fritz and Khaki spoke opposed to the amendment
Anani spoke in favor of amendment recalling the JSC request
Davis saw differences between JSC request and CLAP request, still favored amendment
Motion to cap speakre’s list, but no one on list
Motion to amend (required 2/3) 6 aye, 7 nay fails
Motion to approve, pass
Folk Music Society
Anani opened discussion
A expressed desire for lifeguards
Fritz spoke in favor of BC recommendation
Rowe expressed that lifeguards are important and should be paid
Davis stated that the organization could pick between lifeguard and food
Davis moved that the bid be flexible to the group’s needs. Passed
Rowe asked BSA representative if amount was acceptable
Recommendation as amended passed
Chris Dugoloz/ITS presentation
Examples of wireless hardware shown, as well as map of wireless coverage areas found on ITS website
Overview of ITS wireless deployment (more info on ITS website)
- more funding available from college
- ITS picked Auraba APs (500 needed to fully cover campus, currently have 120, 120 more on the way)
- Focus on common spaces used by faculty and students
- Initial deployment on that parameter
- Next stage: student residences
- Goal: at least one presence In every building at first swipe, will fill up as funds come in
- This year, dorm lounges in major residence halls will be done except in Goodhue and Evans b/c of construction and wiring and also at least one access point in houses that do not currently have service
- Biggest problem adding wireless: cabling to where one wants the access point to be (much more expensive than access point itself)
Dlugosz requested input
There are fixed costs for putting wireless in any given building, but still attempting to give fairly equal level of service in all structures.
Example: Full coverage in Watson hall for less money than for a second wireless access point in Rice House.
Wisener pointed out the importance Res Life puts a great deal of value in having comparable services available.
Dlugosz expressed happiness to discuss at many levels the issues at hand.
Questions from Senate
Stoller pointed out that in many places where wireless already is, it can be very weak, like in the lower Library floors and Great Hall. Dlugosz responded that the quality will be improving soon. Currently six units in Libe, there may end up being 40.
Dlugosz explained the difficulties of having lots of access points. Library difficult to wire.
Zhu asked about the service availability for houses. Dlugosz says that ultimately every room should eventually have ports and wireless. Not enough funding to do that currently. Fiber will be in every building with students in 3 years, Ethernet pors/wireless in 5 years.
Popper asked about any significant change in prices, or change in technology. Answer: not really. The next foreseeable technology will be more expensive
Anani pointed out that Hulings doesn’t have any good connectivity, hot spot thing works well. Asked about ways to allow PS3s on network.
Dlugosz says that PS3s can be added manually now. Explained problems with Hulings—fiber to desktop, not Ethernet—makes access points difficult.
Khaki said public spaces need to be a high priority, asked about outdoor spaces.
Dlugosz responded that outdoor spaces are expensive and hard—8-10x an indoor installation. Pointed out that trees block wireless—water absorbs signals. Winter coverage must better than summer coverage. Areas bounded on three sides may mean that just boosting indoor signal strength might work for those areas. Relatively low priority as is more expensive and cannot really be used as frequently. Also there have been discussions with peer institutions—their experience is that outdoor wireless is barely used.
Malashevic asked about the difference between many small access points and one gigantic one.
Dlugosz pointed out that the technology isn’t meant to scale well.
Singer asked about applying low hanging fruit analogy to outdoors—highly used communal spaces. Dlugosz responded that at this point the budget was such that it didn’t make sense in this budget cycle to spend so much for one single access point as opposed to 5-6 indoor ones
Anani expressed concern that there would be diminishing returns on wiring every lounge in a dorm.
Khaki stated the importance of advertising hot spot locations. Wisener said that was something they could work well together. Dlugosz suggested signage in spaces.
Stoller asked about misconfigured personal wireless devices. Dlugosz says that it causes lots of problems.
Malashevic asked a similar question.
Wisener and Dlugosz urged individuals to contact them with questions/concerns.
Singer thanked the guests.
College Mission Statement update (Deans Baggot and Ramsay)
Baggot noted that this was the third revision to be before Senate
Reminded body that the reaccredidation body really wants a distinct mission statement
Requested endorsement vote—Faculty already endorsed it, going to the trustees soon
Davis approved, asked about the possible elitist tone of “higher level” type statements, desired more enclusive language where phrases like “observe” and “study” were used.
Fritz, Malashevic, and others asked syntactical and clarification questions.
Ramsay pointed out that Carleton is distinguished from high schools, etc, because of the teaching of a higher order of analytical skill and approaches.
Motion made to approve document by Khaki, seconded by others.
Chichirau commended Baggot and Ramsay for a job well done and for including a word that the Vice President did not know.
Singer explained the general format/outline of the upcoming elections and called for members to join the elections committee.
6th week advertise
7th week to Sunday before 8th week: vote.
Pointed out that these positions are very important and it is important to recruit interesting and diverse candidates.
Questions arose regarding the new Admissions/Financial Aid Committee liaison.
Questions were asked about who should be on the committee: Killeen, Ladner, Zhu volunteered.
Becca pointed out that the newspaper usage statistics were available
Star Tribune 26%
NY Times 53%
Malschevich suggested that we move on the St Olaf SGA offer for a CSA/SGA meet and greet.